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    I think those tips will look better once you get more things sorted out. Personally I would leave them since its a real throwback to when these cars were new. I remember always wanting them but never had an exhaust where it was an option. Just looks so period and dtm to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hinrichs View Post
    I think those tips will look better once you get more things sorted out. Personally I would leave them since its a real throwback to when these cars were new. I remember always wanting them but never had an exhaust where it was an option. Just looks so period and dtm to me.
    Itís slowly growing on me, a few others have mentioned this as well it is painfully period correct for the car haha.

    Still Simple I Swear

    Iíve emphasized how I donít want to over complicate this car for now, and I promise this isnít going over board. But I started collecting big brake parts. After some research, Iíve decided to start collecting Porsche 996 parts to fit considerably larger brakes to my M3. Iíve found the stock braking capacity to be a little lacking, and this seemed like a good budget solution. On a whim I checked Craigslist, and there just so happened to be a pair of rear calipers for sale. I got a screaming deal on them, so I scooped them up. I was advised by a friend that the 996 brake setup does change the bias a little bit, and not for the better. So Iím keeping that in mind moving forward, and if I donít like how it feels I will be swapping this out for something else.

    My main motivation for continuing with the 996 setup, despite this warning, is because of two things. First, this uses OEM parts so if I need replacements it should be a little easier to source. I also know the durability of a 996 Brembo is going to be pretty high. For a street driven M3, thatís pretty important for me. But the second big factor is cost, as the Simple M3 is an exercise in restraint for me. I wonít be powder coating these calipers or over doing the setup. I wanted big brakes on the car so I could drive it hard, that was always part of the plan. But I didnít want to go down the same scope creep that lead me to doing a total restoration on my 2002.


    If anyone has a line on a front set of 996 (non-turbo), Boxster S, or Cayman S front calipers let me know. My goal is to get this all sorted in the upcoming months with the substantial refresh. Coilovers, steering rack, brakes, bushings, etc. Might as well do it all at once.

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    Love your car!!! A clean, classic M3

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    Broken Glass


    So the inevitable happened, one of my fog lights got shattered. Arizona freeways are notorious for being covered in rocks, and sure enough it finally got one of my lights. I thought about just ordering another, but the reality is it will happen over and over. Now I can put some clear film to protect them, and I will do this for the headlights, but since Iím going for a Super Touring look I figured why not just delete them.


    I bought some delete covers from a guy locally. $10 well spent. I ordered some color matched paint in spray cans from Automotive Touchup, and some clear coat and went to town.






    Iíve found the key is to do a whole bunch of really light coats. Then bury it in clear coat. It seemed to work out pretty well, the color match was spot on and since these will just be taking more rocks to the face I wasnít too stressed with perfecting it for now.




    And thatís that. Iím still waiting for my coilovers, steering rack and bushings to arrive. Oh also... I booked the car for paint this April. More on that later.

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    Might have to order some of that paint for my deletes since I never knew what to do with the black, hell might even spray my headlight deletes as well. That looks very good.
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    Low is a Lifestyle

    Alright, so now that we have the forums again I can finally post about my coilovers. I got my Fortune Auto 500s in, and decided to get them on the car right away. A couple notes on these coilovers. First, they are built extremely well, and that's just from a parts quality standpoint. I've had a lot of coilovers brands in the past, these were definitely made nicely. Even little things like locking collars, or fine threads on the shock body all make for a much nicer install. I'm impressed, 10/10 would buy again.


    In retrospect I wish I opted to upgrade to Swift springs right out the gate, just because I know I probably will sometime in the future. But for now this will do. This is all stock rates as recommended by FA. I believe 8k/10k.




    Another thing I opted to do was order the Garagistic front and rear reinforcement plates. The fronts are particularly useful as they are the "High Adjustability" plates. When I pulled off my stock suspension, it had the OEM reinforcement plates, which are fine but do slightly limit camber adjustment. So you can see up front now I have full range of motion, and in the rear a little extra support.


    Full droop on the new suspension, vs the old. Funny at this ride height, the left is actually higher than the right between the two. It was hilarious raising the car off the ground before, because the stock suspenion drooped so much, you had to lift the car very high to take off the wheels.










    After installing at my garage, I took it over to my friend's house to make use of his Quick Jacks. I spent an afternoon dialing in the ride height to how I wanted. I put in about 2 degrees of camber in the front, and tried to make sure that it would not rub under heavy load at full lock. It still does a hair, however I believe just turning the stiffness up a few clicks is all it needs. Currently it's set to dead middle (12 clicks) all the way around. I also think I'll need a 5-10mm spacer in the front to clear the big brakes, so that may require further adjusting.




    I also finally got my front calipers. 996 non-turbo brembo's for the front. My adapter brackets came in, and brake lines and pads shortly after. They are significantly larger than the stock M3 stuff, which I am stoked about. My hand for scale, and I have big-ass hands haha. I actually won't be running these specific calipers. I'm trading a friend of mine for his shaved 996 calipers, which takes 12mm off the mounting surface to allow you to clear 17" wheels. Yes, I am running 18s, however if you don't modify the calipers you have to run E46 M3 CSL rotors. Those are $250 a piece, vs the normal E46 M3 rotors at $100 a piece. Saves me $300 in front rotors alone, and still gets me a bigger brake. Plus, I don't want to rule out stepping down to a 17 if I ever find cool wheels I want to swap out to. As soon as I have those other calipers in hand, I will be sending them to get cleaned up and refinished, simply because I don't want them to say Porsche. If they didn't have that on the side, I'd leave them as is.


    Other than that, random bits continue to trickle in. While doing the coilovers I discovered the balljoints on my control arms were shot. So I ordered a new set of those. Because I was doing the steering rack soon, I also opted to order the Garagistic X brace. I wanted to add some structure up front, and this just bolts in. So bit by bit, I'm getting there.

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    Cant wait to hear what you think about those brakes, they are on my long list of things I want to do.
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    I really like the overall setup, you nailed the dtm feel, would just go down to the wheels' lips in the rear for additional racekor points LOL

    Didn't m3s already come with x-braces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hinrichs View Post
    Cant wait to hear what you think about those brakes, they are on my long list of things I want to do.
    Iíll keep you posted. I can send you a full parts list of what I did, there are some odd tricks like running front 2.7 Boxster pads on the rear calipers for a full coverage of the rotor surface, etc.

    Iím hoping it gives a stronger pedal feel and fights fade a little better. Iíve heard a few people note some knock back with this setup, but it seems inconsistent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruttolo View Post
    I really like the overall setup, you nailed the dtm feel, would just go down to the wheels' lips in the rear for additional racekor points LOL

    Didn't m3s already come with x-braces?
    Haha I thought about going lower but at this stage I was as low as I could be without rubbing under real driving conditions. Plus, unlikely my last E36, I can still get a jack under the car at this height.

    And only the LTW and Convertibles came with an X brace in the US. I donít know about Euro spec M3s, but here we got cheated.

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    And Then There Was One...


    So if anyone follows my Instagram, you'll know a couple weeks back I sold my 2002. That's a long story in itself that I don't particularly want to go into, but I also had my other car for sale. Earlier this week I also sold my Fiesta ST. For the first time in about 10 years, I only own one car. I have always had a number of projects, daily drivers or other cars kicking around. But I decided to slim the fleet down to one singular car. And my M3 is it. The FiST was my daily driver, so now the M3 also has to fulfill those roles.






    I don't anticipate this being my only car for very long. Certainly I'll buy another one later this year, as I don't really want to put the M3 through daily driver abuse. But that's how it is for now, and I'm perfectly happy with that. Here's a few shots from my work parking garage this morning.


    I also immediately traded away those calipers I just got, for... the exact same calipers. I had stock 996 calipers pulled straight off a salvage car. However to fit standard E46 M3 rotors vs. the CSL rotors (as mentioned in my last update) you need to shave 12mm off the mounting surface. It just so happens a friend of mine had shaved calipers on his car and wanted to upgrade to CSL rotors. So we swapped calipers straight across. Saved me a few dollars and hassle getting that done. I sent the calipers straight to powder coat because they were pretty nasty looking, and I don't want them to say Porsche.




    Meanwhile my rotors and control arms arrived. As always, I use hand size for reference. I have huge hands, these rotors are huge. I'm a fan.

    Somehow I'm going to have to figure out a strategy to get all this work done without interfering with daily driver duties. I may not have thought this out well enough. But I'll manage.
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    Wish I would have know the 2002 was going to be for sale, thats on my long term list and would have love to scoop it up. Brakes shouldnt be hard, those are deff a big size jump.
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    As someone that always has multiple cars at once, I know the cleansing feeling of liquidating to one. Such a good feeling. Doesn't last for long cause we restart the cycle, but for that little bit.... life is so simple.

    Car looks very sophisticated in the parking garage. Like its awaiting Jason Statham in a Transporter mission. Very sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hinrichs View Post
    Wish I would have know the 2002 was going to be for sale, thats on my long term list and would have love to scoop it up. Brakes shouldnt be hard, those are deff a big size jump.
    I'll be honest, you probably wouldn't have wanted mine specifically. What I didn't get into too much in the other thread was just how beat up that shell really was. The deeper I dug into it, the more it turns out it would have been infinitely more economical to reshell the entire car for the get go. I want another one some day, but just that one required far too much time that I didn't have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miroteknik View Post
    As someone that always has multiple cars at once, I know the cleansing feeling of liquidating to one. Such a good feeling. Doesn't last for long cause we restart the cycle, but for that little bit.... life is so simple.

    Car looks very sophisticated in the parking garage. Like its awaiting Jason Statham in a Transporter mission. Very sharp.
    Thanks! And yes, definitely. Purging everything has been a huge load off. Inevitably, being a car guy, I know I'll buy something else I don't need. But for now I'm going to enjoy the simplicity of my Simple M3 haha.

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    So sad for the 2002 but this E36 looks so good, loving this vibe.

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    And so it has begun, the few regulars left on SW getting rid of some weight. Seeing hinrichs selling his M3 and you selling the 2002 reminds me of the recent discussion about how this kind of builds weigh us down.
    Happy for you, your simple m3 looks very very good and with your aproach it'll become even better. Excited to see where you take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnmzl View Post
    And so it has begun, the few regulars left on SW getting rid of some weight. Seeing hinrichs selling his M3 and you selling the 2002 reminds me of the recent discussion about how this kind of builds weigh us down.
    Happy for you, your simple m3 looks very very good and with your aproach it'll become even better. Excited to see where you take it.
    Is this the end of an era? Where are those new times gonna bring us? The future is uncertain

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawsonLiri View Post
    So sad for the 2002 but this E36 looks so good, loving this vibe.
    Quote Originally Posted by gnmzl View Post
    And so it has begun, the few regulars left on SW getting rid of some weight. Seeing hinrichs selling his M3 and you selling the 2002 reminds me of the recent discussion about how this kind of builds weigh us down.
    Happy for you, your simple m3 looks very very good and with your aproach it'll become even better. Excited to see where you take it.
    Thank you both! Believe me, it was a very difficult decision to sell the 2002 and I miss it every day. But without being able to dedicate proper time to it, it was just the logical choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruttolo View Post
    Is this the end of an era? Where are those new times gonna bring us? The future is uncertain
    Hopefully not the end of an era haha. Just a small break from the chaos of a ground up build!

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    Nice & clean M3!

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    And we're back!

    I thought we lost the forums there for a minute. I know there's not a lot of us on here, but I do enjoy this community. So here are some updates on the M3. Progress has been slow, I've been working on the car as I have time after work. Some of you know, I scheduled the car for a paint job late next month, but I've since postponed it for a few reasons. One, I realize that there is a lot that needs to be taken care of on the car mechanically. The other thing is, I have wanted to swap the car since I got it, and it would suck to paint the car, only to have something damaged during the swap process. It's a low risk, but it seems like all the heavy wrenching should be taken care of while the car is an ugly duckling anyway.


    I did get a new license plate. "STW" for Super Tourenwagen. Though with my plate frame, I anticipate most people will assume it stands for Stanceworks. That's fine, either way I'm happy with it.




    I bought this wing from Stanceworks commander and chief, Mike. Back when Riley owned this M3, he had wanted to put this same wing on the car. I saw some photos, and bought it without thinking twice. Turns out it's a wing off a Lancer, and it needs a lot of work to fit. I like it, but I'm leaning towards sourcing a Rieger Infinity wing instead. It's amazing that thing wing fits as close as it does though, for being off an old crappy Mitsubishi.












    I also finally started on my front end refresh. This has been fairly miserable as I have 30 minutes here and there to plug away at this. I've managed to drop everything, clean it up, swap the pan gasket and get the subframe back in. New control arms, CABs, engine mounts, E46 ZHP steering rack, etc. All new everything, because the steering was pretty sloppy on this car. I also got all new power steering hoses, just to hopefully stop the leak for some time. Photos above just show how disgusting everything was. The oil pan gasket was clearly the original one from 1998, the pan fell off the car when I undid the last bolt.






    I also finally have my 996 calipers ready. All new seals, fresh powdercoat with the Brembo logo powder coated in as well (no stickers here). I had the crossover tubes done in black while I was at it, because they were disgusting to start. I was going to hold off installing these so I could make a few events in the upcoming weeks, but thanks to Corona Virus, we are now grounded.




    Not strictly M3 related, but I'm not going to create a new thread for this car, but I finally bought a new daily driver. 2011 Acura TSX Sport Wagon. I got it from Carvana at all places, but it's low miles, very well kept and exactly what I was looking for. Frankly, I won't lie and say I won't do anything to it, but considering it's pretty boring I can't imagine it going beyond wheels and coils. I just wanted a daily driver that was comfortable, practical and reliable. That TSX checks all the boxes with flying colors.


    Finally, with paint out for a while, I had settled on focusing on perfecting the car mechanically. That is, all of the big jobs will be handled before I make it look pretty. I didn't plan on buying an S54 (and actually at the time of posting this, the deal hasn't been finalized but I'm excited and wanted to share). This S54 came up for a good deal, a friend of mine purchased it for his E30 but opted instead to keep his M30 swap and buy a different project. It has 95k miles, confirmed via a Carfax showing that this engine came out of a wrecked 2002 M3. It has been sitting for a while, but otherwise all appears above board. It came with the harness, ECU, headers, throttle pedal, and a bunch of extra pieces.

    My plan, and I guess I don't believe even myself sometimes, is to shove this engine in the corner and collect parts for the swap slowly over time. I refuse to pull my perfectly healthy S52 from the M3 until I'm absolutely sure that I have everything ready to go together. That includes items like rod bearings, VANOS, gaskets etc. I also have half a mind to pay a shop to do the swap itself. If you haven't gathered from any of my threads, I don't particularly love wrenching, it's more a necessary evil for me.

    But the dream has always been S54 E36. So even if that takes a few years to get there, this is a step in the right direction. Well I hope, I still haven't actually taken delivery of the engine yet.

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    No idea what anyone said, but:

    S54 has fallen through. This was my doing, but with the Corona scare going around right now, I immediately cancelled all major plans. Who knows what’s going to happen next, but almost immediately after making that post, shit hit the fan at work. So I guess the cat is out of the bag, I do plan to S54 swap the car (Fruttolo has known this for quite some time thanks to Facebook), but until I’m sure we are out of this chaos I am not spending the cash on an engine.

    In the mean time, to pass the time in my self-imposed quarantine, I’ll order the remaining bushings and get the car squared away as much as possible.

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    I think thats what I was commenting about, since the S54 is my end goal if I keep my car. For me its a lot easier tho since I dont need hardly anything extra on the engine to work other than it running haha. I feel like that will keep the costs down. I think I might join you and order the bushings I have pushed off for a while and maybe finish the rear end at least. I have a mean shimmy around 100 I need to solve and hopefully thats where my issues are.
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    This car is really shaping up nicely! What's the advantage of the ZHP steering rack, quicker ratio?

    BTW nice daily, I've always liked those TSX wagons, you never really see them around


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