Why does everyone **** cavaliers?!?!

[Dudermagee]

I think the bigger question is what are you doing trying to modify cars when you're in school and have no job? If your car functions then drive it. Crack addictions are cheaper than this hobby.

You obviously don't smoke enough crack then

[Withers]

I think the bigger question is what are you doing trying to modify cars when you're in school and have no job? If your car functions then drive it. Crack addictions are cheaper than this hobby.

[therealvilla]

I live in NC....

I had no idea where Lincolnton was. Did 5 minutes of google-ing and found where Lincolnton is and found these.....

http://hickory.craigslist.org/ctd/3421451677.html

It's got a tan interior and an 8-ball shifter, but other than that it looks pretty sweet to me. Sh*t there's more BMW's around hickory than in G'boro(where I'm at) for relatively good prices.

I also found this....

http://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/3421429087.html

Both are pretty sweet models, both sub 5K, 2 door models, both have manual trans, and both are close to you. Also both were within the first 5-6 posts here...

http://www.searchtempest.com/results...min&maxAsk=max

If you want one more opinion. This is what I'd do.

Keep the Cavalier clean, and well maintained, and do minor mods that are easily reversible for the future when you sell it(keep the old stock parts unless thy're totally shot). And try to get as much out of it as you can when you sell it to go towards something you really want to mod and keep. Or bite the bullet and trade it in somewhere. Surprisingly Carmax might give you a descent amount for it if its in descent shape. My wife traded in a beat to sh*t 98 CRV with over 200K, F'd AC, something wrong in the steering rack, and hail damage on every panel. With all that they still gave her 2K and that was just a few years ago. She didn't even clean the thing out before she took it up there(I'm talking trash and random shit from college in there when she took it up there).You already sound like you're on the fence about going forward with the Cavalier. Unless you really like the Cavalier, then just keep it and don't worry what other people like.

When you start modifying a car you're basically guaranteed to devalue the car to 90% of people down the road when you want to sell it. Even if you find some kid like you who wants a modded car. You still won't get your money from the mods back and you'll probably also lose value on the car itself as well. So don't start modding unless you're totally happy with the car itself first.

You've already got a classic to work on and you're tight on $$$. I suggest picking one project at a time if you're tight on $$$. Maintain the Cav, drive it daily because its cheap on gas and work on the calssic and run that on pretty Fridays and weekends. Once you're happy with the classic then move back to the Cav or trade it in for something you're ready to keep for a while.

My point is. You're tight on money and already have a classic to work on. Work on that for now and then mod a car you really like. Don't just mod something because that's what you've got. Because if you dump money into wheels and suspension on the Cav and then realize you'd rather have something else. Then you're going to lose money on any non-maintenance work done.

[MrDanguy]

Well it's an American FF and there are zero cool parts and no cool factor like a JDM. I'll also assume it has a solid rear beam unlike a Civic and those thoughtless fenders/lines. But mainly because they're usually owned by that guy nobody likes that doesn't know dick about cars but thinks his Cavalier or Sunfire vert is hot shit because it has "sporty" coupe lines. He wears those cheesy douche goggles (you know the gaudy, hella jdm angular sport sunglasses that he thinks are as sleek as his Cav but not the guido type of douche that actually gets laid from time to time). It's the car growing up that you're dumbass buddy who took a loan out to buy an auto Mercury Cougar with BMW roundels points out when he sees it because he thinks it looks as hard as his Coug. It's the car on the top of Pep Boys' list of cars to always stock parts for. The car driven by the 40 y/o that tries racing high school kids. The most popular vehicle among trailer park enthusiasts. It's that car man.

Don't get me wrong, I like to see people mod them and all/most cars, but since you asked.. I'm sure you're not that guy but you know these people I'm referring to.. We all do

Nailed it on the head.

And because... it's a Cavalier...

[Kielan]

Ive looked there arent many BMWs in my area for less than 7000 that did surprise me though that there are a few. I dont have a lot of money for a car still because I cant find a fucking job and no one has offered me anything for my car.



Most of the people at my school drive worse looking and running cars than mine believe it or not. Are you saying build my cavalier to shut everyone up or build something else? Im probably just going to put money into my 65 but thats pretty much all payed for now and I want to either get rid of the cavalier or do something with it and Ive tried to sell it before and almost had a trade for a 97 prelude but the guy thought it was a 4 door and it wasnt.



Nah it might have been because you were an asshole :P or maybe I just live in a place where no one gives a fuck about you drive because no one ever says anything about my car and some actually like it since I keep it clean and have done a little to improve the interior.

I bought my first E46 for 3500, and my second one for 4600. You should be able to get an E36 for less than 5k, in great shape.

[Weponhead]

You own a cavalier and are asking us? I **** them . I **** working on them , looking at them and espescially riding in them. It's a soulless piece of garbage made for the eternal consumption engine.

[MommysLittleMonster]

Most of the people at my school drive worse looking and running cars than mine believe it or not. Are you saying build my cavalier to shut everyone up or build something else? Im probably just going to put money into my 65 but thats pretty much all payed for now and I want to either get rid of the cavalier or do something with it and Ive tried to sell it before and almost had a trade for a 97 prelude but the guy thought it was a 4 door and it wasnt.

I'm telling you to stop making threads asking about why no one likes your car, and go out and do something about it.

Don't post pictures of other peoples builds then say "omg I wanna be just like that!" or "this is exactly what I want to do!". That isn't the way to gain respect and admiration, that's the way to look like a ripoff who steals ideas.

People are going to dislike whatever it is you do, if you don't actually do anything. You're starting out with something that isn't popular, isn't particularly well-made, and has no redeeming qualities when compared to it's more popular counterparts. So, yeah- people are going to tell you to not even bother.

[deckard]

Id drive a cavalier before a MK4 jetta.

i would expect this irrationality from jesus christ.

[Jesus Christ]

Id drive a cavalier before a MK4 jetta.

[martinm13]

Are you blind?


But seriously, I doubt that finding a sub 7k BMW around you is that tough. Like Kielan said, the strange mentality that a BMW is some unattainable car is ridiculous.

No, he's probably just looking for the wrong thing. People have it stuck in their head that older BMW's (E21,28,30,34) are shitty. They are wrong because in reality these are the best ones. Parts are relatively cheap for them, they are easy to fix and maintain, nice body styling, etc.

[deckard]

there are def old bmw, audi and mb around for cheap that can easily be fixed up. as kielan said, people are too quick to assume because of the original sticker price they will be unattainable until they are literally destroyed.

if money is a serious concern imho, a old mk4 vw gets you the best fit and finish with 'fun' engines. parts are dirt cheap and anyone with mild technical ability can do 99% of the repairs.

you can find a manual VR6 jetta with leather for less than $5000, spend a weekend handling the coolant leak situation[probably], all the bushings and balljoints, coilovers installed and be doing sick burnouts in the mcdicks parklot by monday night.

then next weekend you can pull the trans and do a clutch. chains and guides while you are in there.

after that you will probably just do oil changes for a while.

my point is, dont buy a car you cannot afford to maintain. if you have $7000, buy for $4500-$5000.

[Huffy]

Are you blind?


















But seriously, I doubt that finding a sub 7k BMW around you is that tough. Like Kielan said, the strange mentality that a BMW is some unattainable car is ridiculous.

Ive tried some different tags on craigslist and what do you know: http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/3407787924.html

[Jersh]

Ive looked there arent many BMWs in my area for less than 7000...

Are you blind?


















But seriously, I doubt that finding a sub 7k BMW around you is that tough. Like Kielan said, the strange mentality that a BMW is some unattainable car is ridiculous.

[Huffy]

You can definitely afford a BMW if you can afford a car. I don't understand why there is this mentality that BMWs are the most expensive cars to buy on the market. You could get an E36 for the same money. I'm just saying.

And cavaliers are not even close to being on the same level as civics, the interiors suck, the lines suck, and it sucks to drive. There are far more redeeming factors to civics, including the fact that Civics, aren't made up of left over parts, and were actually engineered to be what they are.

Ive looked there arent many BMWs in my area for less than 7000 that did surprise me though that there are a few. I dont have a lot of money for a car still because I cant find a fucking job and no one has offered me anything for my car.

Why?

Because maybe their owners whine when they aren't accepted at the cool kids table.

Stop whining about it and looking for obvious answers, and build something that will shut everyone up.

Most of the people at my school drive worse looking and running cars than mine believe it or not. Are you saying build my cavalier to shut everyone up or build something else? Im probably just going to put money into my 65 but thats pretty much all payed for now and I want to either get rid of the cavalier or do something with it and Ive tried to sell it before and almost had a trade for a 97 prelude but the guy thought it was a 4 door and it wasnt.

I had one in College..


I did not realize that I was uncool because of my cavalier, I thought it was because people thought I was an asshole.

I don't know if I feel better or worse.

Nah it might have been because you were an asshole :P or maybe I just live in a place where no one gives a fuck about you drive because no one ever says anything about my car and some actually like it since I keep it clean and have done a little to improve the interior.

[Z.Cockburn]

I had one in College..


I did not realize that I was uncool because of my cavalier, I thought it was because people thought I was an asshole.

I don't know if I feel better or worse.