What does the stance crowd think about...

[grippymonkey]

I would personally never rock bags... I think coils are just too cool when you are low. I do think bags are pretty cool. Alot of VIP and Euro cars (oh and old school american) pull it off well. I don't like it when people ride high everywhere only to slam it in a parking lot. I like it when the 2nd setting for driving around is still pretty low, and then from there you slam the crap out of it.

The bags that I might rock are the ones that you use on your standard coilover. You have a small bag at the top portion of the coil spring. So you can retain the coilover ride and handling, but still go another 2-3inches lower when you park.

[blue bags]

It really depends on the purpose in my opinion, like stated above, i drove both of my MK4 gtis rocked on coils for years, the car i have now is a daily, and i love having air. I drive lower than i ever possibly could on coils, and park lower. But in the same sense there are places i can go now that i never could, for instance the parking garage in providence, my car literally got stuck on the metal rail connecting the concrete slabs together every time i went, now that i have air i dont have to worry about that. here is a before and after.
This was my daily height, year round on coils.

and now for my purpose, the air is great, i like being low as much as the next guy, but now i can be lower than i ever could on coils, and drivable in almost any situation

under car shots
on Coils:

on air:

[Dag Yo]

Bags are for semi's.

[Exami]

About bags.. i would like to have.. but runing KW Variante3 now i bet that kw has better ridequality.. bags allowed by me .. tho more rep with coil lowerings

i like real low cars and mine has ~8cm from bottom of car.. thats about 3.2"?
that is lowest legal as finnish roads have speedbums that is 8cm high.. and you need to have ability to go over those.. BUT ppl just don't give a f**k
just right place to register your car they just measure cap between wheelcenter & fender but that up to your registration and thats it..

biggest problem there is that you need to find place where to register your ride... as many they have brakedynos and all that shit and you need 8cm clearance on those

[driggers.a]

I think bags can be pulled off on certain cars. Any big car can pull it off since you might actually want to carry a couple people in the back without eating the interstate the whole way there.

I can carry 5 people with luggage and a full tank of gas no problem.

The 22" rule no longer applies from what I understand. I got hit for being too low, cop let me off with a warning.

Well its still in the 2010 CVC database...That means you can technically be written up for it.

[SeanDub]

The 22" rule no longer applies from what I understand. I got hit for being too low, cop let me off with a warning.

[LavaSurfer]

I think bags can be pulled off on certain cars. Any big car can pull it off since you might actually want to carry a couple people in the back without eating the interstate the whole way there. Here's my short list.


Teh Sechs List:

Trucks
Anything you can call a "big body" (96 or older impala, 7 series, S class benz, etc.)


Fail List:
Anything kind of "sport compact" car
All the POS American late model crap I see getting bagged

Of course when it comes from the factory with bags, that's all the better. It makes me want an Audi A8 even moar......

[Dutchy]

I'm for em. If I had a car I wanted to keep really clean I would rock bags, keep down wear on tires, suspension components and your underbody. I'd probably get bored and slam her down on the highway everyday to work, and that would defeat the purpose.

But since my car is a rusty canadian piece of shit, I don't mind the idea of scraping the hell out my underbody and the goods attached to it. Besides I keep a spare oil pan handy

[driggers.a]

1. 22" from middle of headlight to ground.
2. Lowest point of car must not be lower than the bottom side of your rim.
3. Turn signal height of 15" or higher.


Refer to CVC-24008.

[Stephen]

What are the CA rules even? I've heard if the lip is lower than the bottom of the wheel.. but thats a retarted measurement because you just get bigger wheels

[driggers.a]

There are 3 ways to see if a car is legally too low in CA, I fail everyone...Nobody gives a shit if my BMW is too low though, thats mainly a problem for the JDM guys.

I'm just a big no bag person...So I guess I'm not the one to ask, haha.

EDIT: Only acceptable application of bags for me is on a VIP car.

[Stephen]

I'd say do it in your situation.

[Dr.AK]

As long as you drive it slammed.

I still don't see the point though...If you're gonna drive it slammed and park it slammed then why not just rock coils. Not only are coils usually cheaper, but theres a lot less equipment to deal with.

Well, the goal is to drive it slammed, park it (almost) laying frame and just raise it up for stuff I wouldn't be able to drive over if it were super slammed on coils.

#1: In Germany, we have laws about the minimum height of the light output edge in the car's headlights and tails and so on - the stance i wish for would go well below the minimum for these -> cops pull you over, you're f*cked, should they check this. With airride they can't do isht, as long as you follow a few basic rules.

#2; Getting inside steep parking garages and stuff without risking damage due to always scraping and so on, I don't really have a problem with scraping, but not having to worry about hitting anything important when driving up a parking garage or something would be nice.

I deeply respect people who drive uberslammed on coils, but I think bags are the better choice for someone like me (i.e. wanting to go way lower than the laws allow, having to park in very steep parking garages sometimes due to work and so on).

[M.Burroughs]

What has been said pretty much sums it up.

[southpaw]

Some cars can pull it off, some cant. It depends on what the owner wants to do.

IMO, bags are awesome, but people with coils that are slammed get way more rep.