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  • Adam.
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    Awesome, thanks for all your help guys. You've given me a lot to think about but hopefully I'll end up with something I'm really happy with

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  • Alex@BagRiders
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    Yeah the van only has 1/4" lines

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  • Adam.
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    Awesome, that's the sort of speed I was after, so are you only using 1/4" line throughout?

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  • Alex@BagRiders
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    We're using dual supply lines on our shop van's manual paddle valve setup. One line for the left front and rear, and the other line for the right front and rear.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nterEKD6TJY&feature=plcp&context=C39bc690UDOEgsToPDskJ8S2HjA8153-Adh_AcPOcE"]Bag Riders Shop Van - 1/4" Line Test[/ame]

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  • toydatto
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    The air does shift and you're right, I can't throw the truck around corners but that's not what it was meant for. Eventually when I swap my front drums for discs and get a little more power, I could stand to add a couple more valves. OpelWagenGT has some good info. Upgrades are pretty easy on an air system. I started out with schrader valves and a portable compressor so I'm miles ahead at the moment.

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  • OpelWagenGT
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    Originally posted by Adam. View Post
    Oops. I did warn you it was a stupid question

    The install on the pickup looks good but I've heard bad things about using one paddle valve for two corners? Also is it bad to run no gauges? What do you need to keep you eye on anyway?
    I originally was going to run two valves but then someone reminded me that in a corner air will transfer from one side to the other as weight shifts. It's not out of the question to only use 2 but if you like to go hard in the corners like I do you should probably go with 4. The gauges allow you to make sure that both front or rear bags have the same amount of pressure in them for even ride height. I suppose you can even compensate for drivers weight on one side. The gauges aren't as important if you only run 2 valves since it automatically equalizes.

    -Aron

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  • Adam.
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    Originally posted by NegativeCamber View Post
    That's a relay.lol
    Oops. I did warn you it was a stupid question

    The install on the pickup looks good but I've heard bad things about using one paddle valve for two corners? Also is it bad to run no gauges? What do you need to keep you eye on anyway?
    Last edited by Adam.; 03-05-2012, 10:56 PM.

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  • Francois Dillinger
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    how quick it fills will vary based on the volume/size of your bags. 3/8" shouldn't be much more, and you can use flow controls to slow it down if need be...i would go that route.

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  • toydatto
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    Mine seems a bit quicker as well but right in the ball park. I used a Viair 10002 on board air system. Got it for $200 and it has the 275C compressor and 2 gallon tank and relays, filters, line and fittings. I had never set one up before and figured it out. I can lift the whole truck slightly more than once before the compressor kicks in. I don't even have gauges. Nice and simple and works well. I just have front and back. Got my paddles on eBay.



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  • NegativeCamber
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    Originally posted by Adam. View Post
    Stupid question here, what's the box part?
    That's a relay.lol

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  • Adam.
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    Stupid question here, what's the box part?

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  • OpelWagenGT
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    The only thing I don't agree with in that diagram is the 70A switch, that seems way too high.

    -Aron

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  • OpelWagenGT
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    It's not that hard really. Here is a diagram for you.



    -Aron

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  • Adam.
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    I figured that would be the case, I was more worried about actually setting up the compressor and pressure switch etc.. I'm not brilliant with electronics

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  • OpelWagenGT
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    They are not that hard to install you just have to run air lines inside the car which in many cases means taking out your carpets. Also the trick is finding a creative place to the valves so they are easily accessible and don't look stupid. In my car I just put them where the ash tray used to be in my center console.

    -Aron

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