19x10 et20 on the back of an e46 sedan

[bmwstudent]

I can make the lips flush with the fender with about 2.5 degrees of camber and pulling the fenders, what I'm worried about is if i'll like the fenders once all is said and done

[DRAGINMYE46]

If you like them make them fit.. I would rock them with hella poke.. But that is me.. I think they would look good but you are going to have to stretch hella..

Seems like all e46 guys saying it wont work lol. I've seen way more poke than this pulled off on e30's, so theres really no reason it can't be done on an e46. They even have adjustable rear camber to make it even easier.

2.5 more degrees of camber will get the lip to poke half of what it is now, then with a little stretch and a slight fender pull they should slide right in. Seems easy to me :shrug

[bmwstudent]

Does anyone have any shots of what a VERY pulled fender on an e46 looks like? I may be having to do an engine rebuild soon and every so often I look at the wheels in my closet and think of how much they would help with that....

Anyone have pictures of this? I'm now conviced its possible to run these wheels, and I love the way the look on the car, but I want to be sure I like the way the fenders will look if they have to be pulled 10mm. Its kind of a one shot deal, after its done there is no going back, and I want to be sure I like it before I go about buying tires and more suspension parts.

[bmwstudent]

Thanks!

[Natedogg]

bmwstudent - welcome to the site - and welcome to the world of E46 Stance-ing.

[Byron]

Thanks for all the input guys. Also: yaaaaay trig/geometry

Yaaaay did it in my head first

[Zic]

Also: yaaaaay trig/geometry

This is pfffffffft, trial and error ftw. yaaaaaaay

[Zic]

You go girl
Will be sex when its done.

[bmwstudent]

Hey guys, I'm the friend in question.

I've decided that I'm going to do all that I can to make this work. I've sold a set of wheels that I spend almost 25 hours polishing to pay for the camber plates and rear adjusters and just need to sell my old e30 exhaust to get the rest of the money. I've done some of the math regarding how much the camber will change the geometry of the wheel, and 2.5 degrees of camber will bring the top of the wheel in ~0.46 inches, and if the fender can be brought out 10mm (~0.39 inches), then I'll only have 0.14 inches of poke, and if I do 3 degrees of camber I'll only have 0.05 inches of poke.

I think that's something I can live with. Basically I want to be able to do a few driving classes this summer and can't afford to buy two sets of wheels and tires to do that. Well, I can't justify spending all of my summer money on it (I'm a college student and I'll be in Germany next year and want to save up money to travel while I'm abroad)

But, I'm starting to feel pretty good about this. Thanks for all the input guys. Also: yaaaaay trig/geometry

[Byron]

If it's possible to pull them 10mm's then the wheels would be almost perfectly flush with 3* of camber, which would be sweeeet.

I think I finally got him to keep the wheels, he ordered the camber parts the other day

[be-doubleyou]

I know what rolled fenders are but can you (or someone in the forum) explain to a girlie girl like me what exactly does "pulled" fender means? Or how it's done? Thanks!

Pulling a fender actually pulls/pushes it out past where the fender originally sat. With e46's you can't roll the fenders as aggressive as the picture posted, but you can get it to pull out ~10mm without needing a paint job. You can pull it more aggressively but you will probably crack the paint and need new paint.

Yeah I saw TopazKD's car but hes running some horrible camber- something like -7, right? Still pretty awesome that he made it work but I know my friend would never go for that. Whats the specs of the wheels in your sig?

I've been following his thread and he got the camber adjusted to from -6.8 to -2 and will post pics when he gets a chance. Im following it because i want 10.5 rears.

The wheels in my sig are before spacers. The specs on them are:
Work VIP Super Autostradas
Front: 19x8.5 et28 with 225/35/19 (now et18 w/ 215/35's)
Rear: 19x9.5JJ et41 with 245/35/19 (now et21 w/ 225/35's)

I'm still waiting on some other exterior mods before doing another photoshoot with the new specs though.

[Anonymoose]

Most people in the BMW community, excluding here, wouldn't run anything but stock widths/offsets so don't listen to them

[mksu19]

...Pulling a fender is making the vertical part above the fender opening pull outwards, done either with a fender roller or professional bodywork. Kinda hard to explain so I'll show a pic of mine: This is a slight pull done with a roller...

Wow! Thanks for the illustration!

its literally pulling the fender out to widen them. Theres a variety of ways to do it, fender roller, hammer, newpaper pull. and theres more extreme ways that involve cutting.

So if I went to a shop that performs fender rolling, they should be able to "pull" my car's fender that same day or does it take a day or two to modify a fender in this manner?

[Tuck&Poke]

I know what rolled fenders are but can you (or someone in the forum) explain to a girlie girl like me what exactly does "pulled" fender means? Or how it's done? Thanks!

its literally pulling the fender out to widen them. Theres a variety of ways to do it, fender roller, hammer, newpaper pull. and theres more extreme ways that involve cutting.

[BreakMyWallet]

you cant roll e46 fenders like that^

they are way too thick. the thing about fitting that size if you will need a lot of stretch, cut/pulled fenders (since hes performance oriented, he wont want to rub)

when you cut/shave your fenders, you put yourself at high risk for rubbing/the fender separating. especially with an aggressive wheel like that.

so yes, they can fit. but for someone who wants performance its probably not the best idea