PDA

View Full Version : bmw e30 engine lift???



fLat_cAp
08-04-2010, 05:54 PM
hi, i'm new here so excuse if this is in the wrong spot.( please relocate if possible ) i have a 316 e30 and thinking of raising the engine in order to get LOW. has anyone here done this before or have any comments on the matter? i'm currently -60mm from stock on 15", now the back sits oh so right but the front still has the horrendous arch/wheel gap that make me shudder every time i see it. i'm willin to cut the springs but the problem lies with my sump, sooo raise the motor???

any help will do, cheers tommy.x :D

TheNeek
08-04-2010, 10:29 PM
People use washers, hockey pucks, etc. I even created a nolt to raise my motor a half inch in my e21. And I did say nolt on purpose.

610EURO
08-05-2010, 12:27 AM
i machined some nice aluminum spacers to raise my engine. 24v pan = lower then m20 pan. just throw some washers in there. raise it a hakf inch or so. its a good solid number without bieng drastic.

fLat_cAp
08-06-2010, 05:08 PM
orr cheers fellas, i'll be givin it a good look at tommo, get it sussed out. is a half inch the maximum sensible lift?

an theneek, a nolt?? nut/bolt combo thingy ???

Sterling_Archer
08-14-2010, 08:57 AM
thinking about doing this myself. anyone have any problems with the oil pickup or some other problem that may arise when doing this mod? lemme know.

anyone try to raise the whole subframe????????? LOL. I'd like to see it all raised to where the engine would lightly kiss the underside of the hood.

if i win the lotto, i'm going to have the first body-dropped/channeled e30 FTW.

610EURO
08-14-2010, 10:10 AM
the subframe is bolted to the frame, so unless you find a way to raise the frame railsm your not moving the subframe up :rofl

5kwattson
08-17-2010, 11:04 PM
when i did my m50 i made solid motor/trans mounts myself it just happened to work out well i made them taller than the e28 535i mounts i am on IE3's down a coil in the front and i have smashed my lip bashed it a ton and (knock on wood) yet to hit the pan even slightly (RIP 190D) she was taken out due to sump+low dip and no warning sign.

but yeah you can raise is to gain more clearance the only issue i have with mine is im pretty sure the angle is eating up my guibo a lil quicker now than stock height of the motor

DutchM3S50
08-27-2010, 10:47 AM
www.e30.de is a german site... they sell things to do that!

maybe paste in translate.google

TheNeek
09-07-2010, 06:27 PM
the subframe is bolted to the frame, so unless you find a way to raise the frame railsm your not moving the subframe up :rofl

Not true: My friend did this to his E21 subframe. It's pure genius as he actually lifted the pivot point for the control arms at the same time. Got a whole inch out of it. But he lifted the portion that doesn't have the motor mounts on it so he really just did it to gain clearance on the subframe for stuff in the road

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1253615

CHIF8008
03-19-2012, 11:03 AM
I raised my m20 pan so that it sits higher than the front sub frame. I just put washers between the motor mounts.Now I have a skid plate that not only protects the pan, but the sub ftame itself, the steering rack, and the sway bar. I Have had no ill effects.

Psyka
03-19-2012, 01:06 PM
I raised my m20 pan so that it sits higher than the front sub frame. I just put washers between the motor mounts.Now I have a skid plate that not only protects the pan, but the sub ftame itself, the steering rack, and the sway bar. I Have had no ill effects.

No Probleme with the drive shaft ?! How mutch cm did you went up ?! :shifty

CHIF8008
03-19-2012, 01:29 PM
Nope. Although my tranny mounts may be a bit shorter as they are custom made, but I have maybe 2 washers on each motor mount. No driveline vibrations. I have been running like this for a lil over a year now

Rob&co
05-01-2012, 12:32 PM
this is a must!

martin318isE30
05-07-2012, 04:37 PM
Im going to try this on my 318 nd ill post some befor and after pictures.

ecuastyle84
08-10-2012, 09:35 AM
Im going to try this on my 318 nd ill post some befor and after pictures.

I'm interested in this as well

Buck6687
08-11-2012, 02:23 PM
take into account your transmission mounts, you will need to rasie that too.
http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/dt69nova/2011-03-26_210629_pic1.jpg

CHIF8008
08-11-2012, 10:41 PM
i have already explained this in another thread. pictures #1, 3 and 4 are all wrong

#2 is the only illustration that is correct.

i have the m20 in my e30 so it did not need to go up very much to clear the sub-frame. the 4 bangers would have to greatly raise it to clear and would be wrong to do so. a few washers are okay but will not clear the m42 and such motor's pan. you will need a custom pan to get a 4 banger low safely




or swap a m20. if you want MPG's then get the M20b27. i can get 38 mpg and at min 25 everywhere i go. just gotta know how to control your foot

Adam.
08-13-2012, 04:36 PM
I just used washers on the mounts :) Lifted the sump to the same height as the subframe on an M40! (same sump as M42)

1988montecarloss
08-28-2012, 11:39 PM
just got a 318is and plan on lowering it and was wondering about how much i would have to raise the motor for the pan to clear, or is there another pan i could swap on there for more clearance? and can the pan be swapped without having to pull the motor? the car needs oil pan gaskets too and i was wondering if i could change those out with the motor in the car? or at least only slightly raised instead of having to pull the whole thing out

and if i cant put a pan with more clearance on there would a nice skidplate protect it adequately?

1988montecarloss
08-28-2012, 11:40 PM
I just used washers on the mounts :) Lifted the sump to the same height as the subframe on an M40! (same sump as M42)

any drivetrain vibrations?

Adam.
09-02-2012, 12:33 PM
Nope still drives fine :D I'm planning on M52 swaping it in the near future or selling it and getting an E34 so I wasn't too worried about vibrations or w.e

chriskbmx
12-01-2012, 08:33 PM
with an m42 car you will also run into the issue of your intake hitting the hood, you could run hood spacers or something of the like. im going to raise my engine over my winter break. i have been thinking in my head recently if i raise the engine and trans say 20 to 25mil(around and inch) and install 12mm riser subframe kit jacked the rear subframe up to help drive line alighnment. now i have thought of a few cons
1. for this to work properly im thinking you would have to raise the center support bearing the same 12mm to keep drive shaft alighnment to the back
2. shifter clearance with raising the trans
3. drive shaft tunnel clearance.
4. hood clearance.
now to fix problum 1 im thinking just notch it, weld a new piece of steel in and re-thread it. very easy
2nd problem not as easy to fix, but im actually thinking that won't be an issue, but was just an idea i had run through my head, same with issue 3.
4 is easy to fix. depending on how high i raise the engine i can 1. just cut the under side bracing out, or just knock a dent in it. the car is very ratty and beat how it is so i am not worried that much lol

davelarge
04-21-2013, 01:10 PM
Has anyone decided the best way to raise the E30 engine and gearbox?

I've got a 318is with the m42 which if I remember correctly has the lowest sump out of all the E30 blocks, I would like to bring my front arch gap down an inch or 2 but my oil pan is only about 2.5" above the ground as it is.

Average_Jerk
04-21-2013, 01:13 PM
stop posting the same response in every thread

davelarge
04-21-2013, 02:12 PM
Just trying to increase the chances of getting an answer and I found two threads about the same thing, what's up with that?

ZekeTheSneak
04-26-2013, 02:54 PM
take into account your transmission mounts, you will need to rasie that too.
http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/dt69nova/2011-03-26_210629_pic1.jpg


e30s stock from the factory are parallel. It has something to do with getting full movement of the bearings. Stack some washers. Also ditch the stock rubbers as they sag over time.

e36pig
09-06-2013, 04:29 AM
bump for specs or further info on diy

ahxznwwhg
11-19-2013, 11:10 AM
?Tom Ford Tom Ford Tom Ford Undertøj er en del af den amerikanske lingeri Companys har andre kendte mærker, de vigtigste punkter er populært for andre mærker. Effektivt, Tom Ford Tom Ford om, hvordan andre virksomheder som det? Lige her holde sig til den kinesiske undertøj netværk Xiaobian kollektivt at vide: Om USA lingeri firma, hvis Tom Ford Tom Ford, mode planet er bare ikke (Tom Ford), så er det helt sikkert vigtigt at udvikle en out Sensible, smuk, karismatisk, indeholder en bedste smag på ingen måde på. skyld, han er ligesom en født mester inden for mode design og stil. Skuespillerinden Rita Wilson er generelt kendt som "verdens mest sexede homoseksuel mand" Tom Ford, synes det aldrig har haft Sentimental etape, selv i højere kollegium, hvor de fleste af os er langsommelig med hud og acne ikke er effektiv sans for mode og nød, Tom Ford (Tom Ford) allerede har en fantastisk udseende var upåklagelig. Født i Santa non-Tom Ford (Tom Ford), der går på college i New York, produceret tv reklamefilm, og derefter til New Yorks Parsons College of Style i Paris og studerede indretning og mode design og stil i 1990 af den daværende af GUCCI direktør Dawn Mello sluttede GUCCI værdsat før har for designeren Cathy Hardwick og Perry Ellis betjene. Om Tom Ford Tom Ford, mode kloden er bare ikke hvis Tom Ford (Tom Ford), så er det helt sikkert er nødvendigt at tilvejebringe en out. intelligent, smuk, karismatisk, har en stor smag aldrig nogensinde skyld, han er som en født mester med inden for modedesign. Skuespillerinden Rita Wilson er kendt som "verdens mest sexede homoseksuel mand" Tom Ford, ser det ud på ingen måde havde Sentimental etape, selv i højere skole,Dame Camrose Parka (http://www.canadagoosetilbud.eu/dame-camrose-parka-c-22/), når de fleste af os er langvarige med hud og akne er bare ikke vidunderlige sans for stil og nød, Tom Ford (Tom Ford) aktuelt har en ideel udseende var upåklagelig. Født i Santa non-Tom Ford (Tom Ford), der går på college i New York, skabte tv-reklamer, og derefter til New Yorks parsons College of Style i Paris og studerede indretning og stil og mode stil,canada goose jakker (http://www.canadagoosetilbud.eu/), i 1990 af den daværende af GUCCI direktør Dawn Mello sluttede GUCCI værdsat lige før har for designeren Cathy Hardwick og Perry Ellis udføre. Om Tom Ford Tom Ford Andre virksomhedskultur, du kan tage et kig på den amerikanske medlem Tom Ford lingeri firma officielle hjemmeside.
????????


Canada Goose Outlet Kensington Parka Blå Gratis F (http://cybergamers.com.br/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14&view=unread#unread)

Song Du træningsdragt sammenføjning detaljer3146 canada goose jakke (http://www.atit.org.tw/ATIT_pic/details.php?image_id=2223)

chncegaul
01-16-2015, 01:58 AM
i machined some nice aluminum spacers to raise my engine. 24v pan = lower then m20 pan. just throw some washers in there. raise it a hakf inch or so. its a good solid number without bieng drastic.

how many millimeters were the washers you machined?

DER E30
10-18-2015, 04:45 PM
From this thread... http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55326 The guy in the thread bought a shorter steel m42 oil pan, so raising the engine is almost obsolete... I myself have stock pan and have raised the motor ~1/8th inch, which is functionally nothing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stahl-Olwanne-fur-alle-BMW-E30-4-Zylinder-Rallye-Cross-/120861552357?pt=Teile_ohne_Strassenzulassung&hash=item1c23e8eee5&rmvSB=true

Miatafanatic77
06-21-2017, 03:49 PM
Look in the 128 engine section, thats where all the 128 love is. Plenty of BPE threads there, including a number of videos, most of which I created.


BMW PE, the most expensive, unnecessary accessory that I just love.

Skeilz
11-12-2017, 10:59 AM
very instructive thread!