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mipktb
09-29-2009, 05:45 PM
SO, I've been reading, talking to people, etc. about getting my fenders rolled, which I've needed to do for some time now. I know I can tuck a 205/40 on stock fenders, but I really thing 215's and a roll come out much nicer.

BACKGROUND:

1995 M3, Tein Coils, Azev Type-A 17x8.5 ET13 (same as Digitalwave, but squared at offset).

What I know (or think I know...) along with some questions:

1. I am not a body tech and E36 fenders are apparently more temperamental than others. I need to stay myself away from heat guns because they can get butchered fast. I love my car, so I'll be having them done professionally. I like getting my hands dirty, but testing my auto body skills on a 15 year old sports car isn't a good call.

2. How aggressive of a roll will I need to tuck a 215/40 on a 17 ET13 out back?

3. How aggressive of a roll will I need to tuck a 215/40 on a 17 ET13 up front?

4. What's a reasonable price? I got quoted by a tech (highly recommended in KC) for $50 per corner ---> $200 total, which seemed okay to me, but what do I know? Are there any other Midwesterners who would like to speak up?

5. What else should I know about this process? What other questions should I be asking? Tips, ideas, pointers?

Alright guys, drop some knowledge on me! :D

bjh102
09-29-2009, 06:37 PM
i just rolled mine with a baseball bat and a heat gun. they came out perfect except for one little area cause i was an idiot with the jack. i basically pulled the flat part of the fender out flush with the arch in the rears and slightly pulled the fronts. need to go and match the passenger side front to the driver side. its just a little bit less pulled and it rubs. but anyways its not hard at all. just think it through. make sure you have 2 people for it and use heat gun or you WILL crack your paint.

i have the same wheel specs as you BTW

Oscar
09-29-2009, 07:30 PM
So wait..do you want to roll or pull your fenders? There's a difference.

If you want to roll your fenders then rolled up and flat against the fender is best thing since only partly rolling fenders is pointless.

Tuck&Poke
09-29-2009, 07:57 PM
50 per arch is a standard price. I dont know what else to answer since your not doing it yourself anyway. Its not difficult, especially with an eastwood roller, but it does take some patience and care, and be prepared to crack the paint, especially on a 15yr old car.

mipktb
09-29-2009, 08:08 PM
50 per arch is a standard price. I dont know what else to answer since your not doing it yourself anyway. Its not difficult, especially with an eastwood roller, but it does take some patience and care, and be prepared to crack the paint, especially on a 15yr old car.

Yeah, that's what I'm apprehensive about. It just seems like if I'm going to crack the paint (which will cost me $25 a corner to patch anyways) why wouldn't I just pay the extra $25 per arch ($50 total) to have it done right and skip the time and frustration?

I guess I was mostly looking for 'What You Should Know' from a non-DIY standpoint sort of thing from other E36 owners who have experience...

Daytona M
09-29-2009, 08:10 PM
Who were you recommended? Im looking to have mine rolled as well and I am from KC.

bjh102
09-29-2009, 08:16 PM
dude im telling you. baseball bat plus heat gun. no need to spend the money on having someone do it. my paint didnt crack. i screwed up and dropped the car down fukly on the ground with the bat in the fender. it wasnt even that bad tho. just a tiny bit of a diference from side to side.

low_offset
09-29-2009, 09:10 PM
you can DYI but the essential tool on this is the heat gun :eyebrows

JSanders
09-29-2009, 10:10 PM
I'll send you the cliff notes when I get a chance to do mine.

mipktb
09-29-2009, 10:29 PM
Who were you recommended? Im looking to have mine rolled as well and I am from KC.

Shit! I'm totally blanking on his name but if you PM me I'll shoot ya his number.


dude im telling you. baseball bat plus heat gun. no need to spend the money on having someone do it. my paint didnt crack. i screwed up and dropped the car down fukly on the ground with the bat in the fender. it wasnt even that bad tho. just a tiny bit of a diference from side to side.

This is what I am trying to avoid.

Once again, my motto: If I can't do something right, I'd rather not do it all. But I'd still like to get my fenders rolled. Conclusion: I will be paying somebody to do it.

bjh102
09-29-2009, 10:41 PM
This is what I am trying to avoid.

Once again, my motto: If I can't do something right, I'd rather not do it all. But I'd still like to get my fenders rolled. Conclusion: I will be paying somebody to do it.

lol man im not gonna lie that is the worst motto ive ever heard. if you cant do something..... LEARN! haha :D

good lucj with the fender rolling. make sure you take the wheel you are going to run with you so you can get the perfect amount of roll and pull done. oh and tell them to roll the upper part of the fender aswell.

Jamil
09-29-2009, 11:19 PM
Seriously, Baseball bats work wonders... my fender was cutting my tire for a bit, i let the car bake out in this ridiculous sun and brought out the bat.... just do it yourself so you can spend money elsewhere... even if you screw up touch up paint is cheap :)

D-rock
09-30-2009, 12:51 AM
I'm doing what this guy said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWMKM6wcvEo&feature=related

TheNeek
09-30-2009, 09:34 AM
I used a hammer and dolly. Of course I painted the whole car when I was done :)

bjh102
09-30-2009, 06:19 PM
I used a hammer and dolly. Of course I painted the whole car when I was done :)

i actually considered doing it that way.

TheNeek
09-30-2009, 06:36 PM
i actually considered doing it that way.

I did a wee bit of metal bumping on Rusty when the ol' girl was in town. It really is a tried and true way of making shapes in sheet. My level of precision leaves something to be desired, but still.

bjh102
09-30-2009, 09:22 PM
I did a wee bit of metal bumping on Rusty when the ol' girl was in town. It really is a tried and true way of making shapes in sheet. My level of precision leaves something to be desired, but still.

lol it looks good on ur e21 thats all that matters. :stickoutt

calypsorot650
09-30-2009, 09:48 PM
phonebooks

TheNeek
10-01-2009, 10:41 AM
lol it looks good on ur e21 thats all that matters. :stickoutt


We can thank the body shop for smoothing out my work.

frey328is
10-02-2009, 12:43 PM
I had a bodyshop in wichita do mine for 100 when the car was already in for paint on the front end. I also paid for the rental of a fender roller for him to use.

I really dont think its hard though. I need to roll the rears some more to fit spacers so im going to do it myself next summer.

Digitalwave
10-02-2009, 01:28 PM
Conclusion: I will be paying somebody to do it.

Honestly, I would expect a shop to crack/chip the paint too. There is only so much you can do to the fender without messing up the paint.

M.Burroughs
10-02-2009, 01:32 PM
Heat gun.
Take your time. I let someone else roll the fenders on my car and they chipped my paint pretty bad. From now on I'll do it myself. Then I'm the only one to blame.

akoehler
10-02-2009, 01:39 PM
You can see where I screwed up. If there are little tabs on the inside that secure the fender liner like on mkIV Volkswagens, make sure to fully cut them out first..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2487/3917307161_d619244371.jpg

frink84
10-02-2009, 04:36 PM
If there are little tabs on the inside that secure the fender liner like on mkIV Volkswagens, make sure to fully cut them out first..

+1 on that, and check for any screws/etc on the lip itself. my fox mustang has a screw at the top of the lip that if not removed, has been known to do DAMAGE when fender rolling